He said America is going to go from “so much” to “so little” and that there will be a severe depression much worse and longer than the first one in the 1930’s. He said in that first depression hundreds of people jumped out of wall street buildings; in the coming depression there will be thousands. Escape LA read on.
Daya Ma said (am told) “In LA the time will come when 8 million people will die in 3 minutes (this sounds like flooding as it takes 3 minutes to drown – a nuclear bomb people die in 3 seconds.
Amma in LA at a retreat maybe 7 years ago was asked about the future of LA
Q “I know Amma can see the future. What does Amma see for the future of LA?
A Yes Amma does see the future but Amma is not going to tell you what she sees for Los Angeles. If Amma were to tell you then you would all get up and run away from here (such a strong statement impressed my mind and the quote is accurate I was there I heard this directly.
If you are a resident of Los Angeles I’m not saying run for the hills, but try to move out of LA, asap to Arizona, Florida, Texas or any Red state.
Meera Mata at Hollywood Temple said that Master predicted the time will come when we see long lines of people down Sunset Blvd waiting for their daily (and only) bowl of soup from the Hollywood Temple “Soup Kitchen” LA is going north and Boston is going South in the coming pole shift (date unknown) and that in the far future America will be mostly black.
Anandamoy at Phoenix Temple during early 70s or before was saying “if people keep watching TV like this instead of using their free time to seek God the time will come when you will think the world is coming to an end” and Dharmananda said – I heard him as I recall – “America is Atlantis reborn, the same people who destroyed Atlantis will destroy America. Everything is going to go. No — there is nothing you can do to prepare for this except attunement with the Guru and God; the only things that might help you would be books on how to start over from scratch – no civilization, etc” and about 1975 or so all the senior monks stopped saying such things and the rumor I heard was Daya Ma said do not talk about such things in public anymore. Gag order.
Br Isaac at Hollywood Temple went to private satsangs with the SRF President Daya Mata (a realized soul for sure) and he told me “Daya Ma said the US is no longer floating downstream. It has gone over the falls – in free fall. Just a matter of when it will hit bottom.” Daya Ma (just before Isaac went to hospital to die) said “American has been flushed down the toilet”
Time to pray even more mightily than before. I read many many posts referring to a serious happening this week. Could be big. Plz pray.
Dear Rebecca,
I have been waiting for this information for years, am deeply grateful for your kindness, efforts, care and love for all of us, deeply grateful. I would like to share with you what Sister Shanti told me and a friend years ago. You are welcome to share this with whomever you like, and whomever wants it, it may save lives. We asked her what we could do if the world crisis was going to manifest in the future. She told us that at some point in the future, a comet may come very close to the planet. It will be carrying poisonous gas. We will know by our dreams, and by an unusual coldness in the air, the coldness of a blizzard snow storm on a mountain top.
We are to find a room with a bathroom or portable toilet. She said to stock up food, water, blankets, warm clothing and Master’s books, (and whatever else, medicine, etc) for three days, She said that if there are windows to the outside, to tape them with duct tape, in front and outside, and to do this to the door also, so the gas from the comet doesn’t come in the room. Praying the whole time would be a very good idea. She also said to cover the window with something dark outside, like black plastic, and not to look outside the window when the lights of the comet come, if they do, because it will blind human eyes. If we cover the windows on the outside, there won’t be any temptation to look out at the light. You are welcome to send this information to help others, just don’t let anyone know it is from me. I am looking forward to the information you are about to send, I cannot thank you enough!! I will pass it on to those who want it. It is time for that now, don’t you think?
Brother Bhaktananda also often said Master never gave dates for these predictions and also that God does not want us to know since God wants us to simply do our best stay in tune and that is the best preparation and protection – not knowing dates in advance etc and worrying. He said only God knows for sure when things will happen; you can be sure that those who say they know do not know.
Master said “My devotees will get through these time and (pounding a fist on the table) and BETTER THAN THE MORMONS!!”
Bhaktananda told one friend – with money and investments etc – about the coming depression he often mentioned and what to do with the money. Brother said “the thing is there will be very little money and what there is won’t be worth much.”
Do you know about Roth and Clair Bullion in Arizona – long time SRF he was a monk they have 60+ acres Bhaktananda told them to buy land with a well solar off the grid they did it is thriving the entire Phoenix Temple crowd will probably land there to live there are chickens greens 50 or more pistachio trees many other trees etc etc a devotee haven….It is the only such SRF based thing I know about and of course it is due to Bhaktananda.
Bhaktananda told one friend – with money and investments etc – about the coming depression he often mentioned and what to do with the money. Brother said “the thing is there will be very little money and what there is won’t be worth much”
Carol Baldwin and elderly SRF Hollywood Temple friend gathering of SRFers with Master in the early 50s. Was sitting on couch with a little girlfriend talking about a book they had on Russia and nuclear war and the urgency to build fall out shelters for nuclear war etc. Master was in front of them and overheard their conversation. he turned around and said to Carol “your trouble will not come from Russia your trouble will come from China; and you will live to see it” then he turned around again.
Amma saw little kids playing in front of her and said “these kids will have a very difficult life. When they are our age they will have great difficulty getting enough to eat. Many will starve to death and some will commit suicide.”
Amma laughs and smiles and is encouraging sadhana and so forth and does not dwell on these negatives as you know I am sure but you asked and I am sharing the heavy things I do not usually dwell upon.
WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN YOUR PHONE DOES NOT RING OR YOU CAN NOT CALL OUT AND WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN YOUR INTERNET NO LONGER WORKS ?
These are not idle questions for you to consider but they are more blunt to the point LIKE THIS:
WHAT IS YOUR ACTION PLAN WHEN THE COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK OF THE USA GOES DOWN AND THE FOLLOWING SERVICES NO LONGER WORK ?
YOUR LAND PHONE NO LONGER RINGS AND HAS NO DIAL TONE
YOUR HOME AND BUSINESS INTERNET CONNECTIONS NO LONGER WORK
YOUR CELL PHONE CAN NO LONGER MAKE VOICE CALLS OR RECEIVE VOICE CALLS OR SEND OR RECEIVE TEXT MESSAGES AND HAS NO INTERNET CONNECTION
RADIO AND TV NETWORKS WILL CEASE TO FUNCTION AND ONLY THE PEOPLE AT THE LOCAL STATION WILL BE ABLE TO BROADCAST OUT TO THE LOCAL AREA.
WITH A BREAKDOWN OF THE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS THE FOLLOWING THINGS WILL CEASE:
NO CREDIT OR DEBIT CARD TRANSACTIONS CAN OCCUR
IN A FEW MINUTES OR HOURS THE ELECTRIC POWER GRID WILL FAIL BECAUSE THE WORKERS THAT KEEP IT RUNNING WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.
IN A FEW MINUTES OR HOURS THE FRESH WATER SUPPLY WILL CEASE TO FUNCTION BECAUSE OF LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS TO KEEP THE SUPPLY SYSTEMS RUNNING.
IN A FEW MINUTES OR HOURS NATURAL GAS DELIVERY WILL FAIL BECAUSE OF LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS TO MANAGE THE DELIVERY SYSTEM.
IN A FEW HOURS OR A DAY GARBAGE PICKUP WILL CEASE DUE TO LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS.
IN MINUTES OR HOURS WASTE TREATMENT PLANTS WILL GO OFFLINE AND STOP PROCESSING SEWAGE BECAUSE OF LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS AND LACK OF POWER.
IF YOU HAVE NOT CONSIDERED THESE ISSUES AND MADE A SOLID PLAN FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS SERIOUSLY BECAUSE SUCH A TIME IS UPON THE USA NOW (NOT LATER BUT NOW) WHY YOU ASK ?
ENEMIES OF THE USA CAN BRING THE COMMUNICATIONS TO IT’S KNEES
NATURAL DISASTER CAN BRING THE SYSTEM TO ITS KNEES
THE USA GOVERNMENT CAN SHUT THE SYSTEM DOWN TO FORCE THE PEOPLE TO COMPLY WITH NEW GOVERNMENT DEMANDS ON A WHIM. For More Directions
On USA tour some few years ago on a rest stop she did a satsang — one fellow asked Amma “Amma do you really know what is going on in the world today” and Amma said “Yes Amma knows what is going on. But Amma cannot speak of this, if Amma told what she knows they would put Amma in prison. Amma is not afraid of prison but her work in the world is too important” Chidanand aka Ted Dunham was there he told me like this –he is one of the big truck drivers lo
Gloria
Tatum a nurse at Hollywood Temple was talking to Bhaktananda and
pressing him to tell her when these things like the depression and pole
shift will actually happen. We all knew he has or had the ability to
know the future for sure so often did he demonstrate that power. Gloria
asked him “should I buy warm clothing for the pole shift???” and he said
“no, no it won’t be in our time” and Gloria said “when? Like about
2070? OR what? and Brother said “yes”
The only ET I heard about was from Bro. Bhaktananda. He said that a few times Master talked about it during Hollywood Temple services. Bro. Bhaktananda told me on two different occasions about it- that Master said the aliens are real, they are here, and their main purpose is to help the USA in the next war. Master didn’t elaborate and Bro. Bhaktananda did not ask him for more information privately.
Bhaktananda was often asked when the depression is supposed to happen; he always said “Master never gave any dates” but my opinion (from hearing all of Brother’s lectures for over 40 years) is that he was strongly often hinting that it would for sure “be in our time” so get ready be in Tune with God etc meditate!
Amma has said “you can have a basketful of money and it won’t buy you a meal.” Also that when these things happen travel will not be easy and you probably will stay put where you are. I guess where you are when it happens is where you end up like musical chairs.
Do you know about Roth and Clair Bullion in Arizona – long time SRF he was a monk they have 60+ acres Bhaktananda told them to buy land with a well solar off the grid they did it is thriving the entire Phoenix Temple crowd will probably land there to live there are chickens greens 50 or more pistachio trees many other trees etc etc a devotee haven….It is the only such SRF based thing I know about and of course it is due to Bhaktananda.
Bhaktananda one time said hidden valley will be the main food source for SRF monastics in coming years.
Amma recently mentioned and I was there and heard it directly (paraphrase) “America took 60 years to destroy their spiritual values. India has taken only 10 to 15 years. India is imitating the worst parts of American culture – TV Facebook movies junk food etc it is like Siva dressing up as Krishna it is just a joke. America – the west – had these things built in and that is why it took 60 years. India – not so. At some point in time we have to return to spiritual values”.
I remember Daya Ma said USA made the big mistake in the 1960’s sexual drug “revolution” with Dr. Spock and his new age ideas of freedom for children (BIG mistake she said) and this coincides with what Amma is saying “it took American 60 years” as before 1960 we still had spiritual values (now considered as old fashioned 1950’s era out dated historical relics or some thing like that
Amma
said India is in a tamasic phase she is very sad for that she also says
up front bold and strong Indian people are lazy sleep too much work too
little sleep too much are prone to being diabetic etc and that the
reason westerners have more money is that they work much harder.
Compared to the westerners you Indians have not even got out of bed yet.
If you went to work in the west you’d discover that you’d be working
even up to 100 hours a week!
After
some years in the ashram I have formed an opinion about Indian people.
Yes it is very ugly when an Indian is just imitating the western habits
and has no regard for spiritual culture. But it is no worse that what we
see in the USA; except in the USA there is more respect for politeness
and being on time and working hard to “make it”. And in the USA we are
pretending to be clean sanitary responsible when actually we are
responsible for using or wasting more resources than anybody including
of course India.
Many – too many but not all!! — Indians you run into even at the ashram especially outside ashram are spiritual beautiful kind and sympathetic. It is very beautiful and I focus on that and try to be like that. But yet, just as in the USA there are other sorts of people too (more on the dark side shall we say – as Yogananda said “Ignorance is 50-50 east and west” we cannot claim we are better or worse than the other)— as some western residents have confided to me – IN THEIR OPINIONN many if not most Indian men particularly are passive aggressive, lazy, entitled, irresponsible, seem to hate westerners (it is easy to sense this malice in their heart as you interact with them; I have gotten very weary experiencing it!) Myself I would not use such hard language to describe Indian men; many are not at all like that etc etc just like there are stupid and fat and lazy Americans (they might say that about us I do not know) but name calling is pointless in any event.
Amma has said that when hard times come the westerners in India will have to be very careful since the Indians will feel they are stealing our resources) but sort of try to hide it (we do not belong get out of our country etc). Some of them outside and even visitors to the ashram are deliberately rude to westerners, one often sees a hostile gaze and one can sense a heart full of malice —and others just like in the US are or can be manipulative greedy opportunistic not to be trusted at all — but in the tourist or retail trade there is a veneer of politeness. I do not like to travel in India- any other country it is not as bad as THIS.
NOT
the India I expected and by the way most westerners here – long time
folks – would (privately not in public) probably mostly agree with this
assessment. The above mostly applies to Indian men not the women who are
much more humble hard working generous understanding etc………..
I
suspect all this is related to being recently freed from the British
and they have taken this “freedom from the iron fist” to mean do what
you want no control and that is what we see – even the police etc have a
more or less hands off attitude it is not politically correct in India
to be in any way like the British were you see – if you follow me. I try
to understand and be sympathetic even as they cut in front of me in the
line, give hostile stares, cheat me over charge me with smile etc etc
etc
All
these predictions – if you made a painting of it — it would be modern
art for sure – no logic no beauty just dissonance. Many things do not
fit or agree at least from where I see things. It does seem certain a
depression is soon coming it will be a long one much longer than the
30’s (as Brother B often said) and 2020 and 2022 are problem years).
Hopefully the end of the dark cloud Daya Ma spoke of comes soon people
pray turn to God etc and so at least when these trouble pound us we have
a more spiritual sort of brotherhood culture that is my hope at least..
I
prefer to be both realistic and optimistic. It does actually bring me
great hope to know he evil cannot endure changes – big changes – are
coming – we will return to spiritual living due to suffering at any
event. The only correct response is to stay in tune and even-minded.
People asked Bhaktananda how to prepare and he said “as if for an
Earthquake” lots of literature on that and trainings even at India Hall.
Daya Ma in one of her recordings says “you will see the time will come when we have to return to the earth – gardening etc”
Master
in AWAKE IN THE COSMIC DREAM says clearly point blank “Those who
believe in bombs and violence will destroy this world…but those of us
living spiritually have come to rebuild…..”
Tara Mata editor of the AY etc a senior advanced nun who was Yogananda’s main editor for many decades said after Master passed many times to monks and other lay disciples “just remember, everything has to go. And I do not mean rubble. I mean ashes. Everything must be burned to ground” this was in the context of her saying that all the present day “modern” institutions of education, medicine, entertainment, business, religion, military, etc etc are kali yuga based and cannot survive into the higher ages. It all has to go. We will be starting over.
So you are getting here little quotes gathered from 50 years at Hollywood Temple and 15 with Amma
Gene Bardwell in the early 70’s at Clifton’s cafeteria in downtown LA during Convocation told me and others “Master said Prince Charles is the reincarnation of Hitler. Hitler was Alexander the Great. He will come to power not just as figurehead king but political power and he will have the same choice he had as Hitler – whether to use his power for good or evil” …..”Hitler did not get bad karma for the holocaust….he was an instrument of world karma”. Bhaktananda said each single person in the Holocaust it was their individual karma to go through that experience – it was necessary for their evolution….etc” (Jewish folks may not want to hear this) and Bhaktananda also said “the holocaust was NOT because the Jews killed Jesus” it was the karma of individuals that made it necessary…..Gene Bardwell was the only SRF meditation counselor on the east coast he was a householder but highly advanced spiritually etc in the early 70s or so—he knew all the senior monastics had an inside track to information like this
Amma in LA at a retreat maybe 7 years ago was asked about the future of LA
Q “I know Amma can see the future. What does Amma see for the future of LA?
A
Yes Amma does see the future but Amma is not going to tell you what
she sees for Los Angeles. If Amma were to tell you then you would all
get up and run away from here (such a strong statement impressed my mind
and the quote is accurate I was there I heard this directly)
Bhaktananda mentioned past and future lives of Master
“Master’s next life will be when the earth is clean again (this has given me hope) in (I forget- 2-3 hundred years or 500 years) in the Himalayas. He will be private not a public figure and he will have just a few close disciples —I heard Daya Ma will be there but as a man.) After that he will come back to America in 2-3 or 500 years and “be among you all again” he will be a SRF monk and will become SRF president and restore the work. Yes Master wrote Shakespeare he was William the Conqueror he was one of the 3 world explorer sea captains (was not sure which one – Columbus or Drake or Magellan) he was a Japanese war lord he was Arjuna before that he was a world conqueror for many lives he is a military soul he found liberation as Arjuna.
Daya Ma said before she died that there will not be a WWIII but instead many smaller wars—enough people have been meditating to prevent WWIII
Amma
was asked if it is true that 3/4 of the people on earth will die/ she
said “no, not that many. Only 2/3 will die”. I did not hear this
directly but numerous times people have told me Amma did say that
Uma
Mata was asked when will the depression happen? and she said it already
is happening year by year it will get worse. And if you look at the
number of people on food stamps-welfare if they were on the street it
would look worse than the 30’s indeed. we just do not see it but the
depression is already going on
Meera
Mata driving Master many times around the Hollywood Temple block (N on
Catalina W on Sunset S on Edgemont and E on Catalina for 3 hours ! she
asked Master “why are we doing this” and Master said “I am building a
wall of protection around the Hollywood Temple”
Meera
Mata or the nuns with her said we will see someday long lines of people
down Sunset Blvd waiting to get their one bowl of soup from the
Hollywood Temple
Bhaktananda
one Saturday night at a SRF WAY OF LIFE class many years ago was
talking about marriage and life in the world today. He mentioned the big
problem is nobody is getting spiritual training as a child. The cause
of so many troubles. Marriage to be successful requires good character
and the right kind of early training, hard work….etc. An ideal marriage
is like a wonderful concert where a virtuoso piano player gives an
outstanding performance. Standing ovation etc. That is how marriage is
supposed to be. Then after that a teenage boy in cut offs and a T shirt –
carrying a skateboard – walks onstage. He bows and sits down at the
piano to play. He has never taken any music lessons never played a
piano. What will you hear? That is how marriage is today. And it is
going to get worse before it gets better since the children of such
marriages have even less preparation. In fact (I memorized these
words since they impressed me as coming from Spirit not anything written
etc) the vibration is so bad on the planet today that none of us would
even be able to meditate if it were not for Babaji gathering avatars
around him in the Himalayas..
Mother
Mary about Noah’s flood if you Google Marian Apparations Noah’s flood
etc you might hit sites where Mother Mary talks about the future and one
time I forget which apparation she said “People are misbehaving
today much worse than before Noah’s flood. The suffering that is coming
will be far greater than ever before….pray, children, pray…..etc
Amma
was asked if she is Mother Mary and her answer was to throw her cloth
over her head and pose in such a way that she looked just like the
pictures of Mother Mary.. A definite YES answer
Daya
Ma said about flooding — someone asked her about Master standing on
the. porch looking around saying “water water all around is all I see”
and Ma said “yes, what is wrong with that? Wouldn’t it be nice if Mt
Washington were an island? Isolated and quiet?”
Bhaktananda once said “I can imagine a time when it will take a rowboat to get from Hollywood Temple to Mt Washington
Daya Ma said (am told) “In LA the time will come when 8 million people will die in 3 minutes (this sounds like flooding as it takes 3 minutes to drown – a nuclear bomb people die in 3 seconds
Bhaktananda
often said in Sunday service etc “We hope that nuclear bombs will not
fall on America. The only reason that would happen would be if America
forgets God. And, America has forgotten God” (he then quickly changed
the topic and firmly diverted everyone’s attention so as they would not
dwell on what he just said – I suspect)
Daya
Ma said “when Divine Mother has finished shaking her children it will
be at least 2-3 hundred years before mankind even thinks of rebuilding”
Hopefully I won’t be getting more such thoughts to share—now you can see what has been rattling around my brain for all these years – I thought I was being clever to gather such information but now I regret it – is all a distraction from being in the moment, with God and Master.
Best Tom
Here is another note from a devotee.
So breakfast detective work – apparently there is a transcript of a satsang in English from sometime in December in the International Office, will go there this afternoon and see if I can read it or copy it and let you know.
Summary I have heard is that between 2020 -2022 solar flares are likely to knock out satelites making travel and communication difficult. Also heard Amma is wanting us to pray.
JAN 27TH, 10:58PM
Ok read in full the new years eve satsang. She said that if we didn’t get nature in balance the ozone layer would be further depleted and this could cause disruption to satelites and much heating in 2020 – 2022. She said we should…..compost, carpool, plant trees, not use plastic, etc etc all the things she has been saying. She said if we don’t change now these things could happen. Didn’t say it would and said it could be stopped by us changing our behaviour. At least that is my summary of what I read, they wouldn’t let me take notes or photograph the talk. Looked through a bunch of other English translated things no other mention.
This is an compilation of emails i have sent out but read the stream and you will find out info that is very relevant to the next few years and the well being of your sons etc.
feel welcome to call if you have an interest.
Best Nick
Aum Namah Sivaya,
Thought perhaps i should send you this emial i have composed taken from a bunch of emails i have request via friends at Amritapuri… interesting food for thought. Hope to see you both next year in London and the continent.. Though this information may not be welcome I felt it a duty to pass it on and do a bit of research. Mother has indicated severe weather patterns as we move into 2020 and 2022. I have quite a few renunciant friends who reside in Amritapuri and are loath to be identified for fear of misconstruing Mothers compassionate words.
However I have managed to get a rough picture of what she has said via the www.amritapuri.org website and their emails. I have been told Mother brought up this subject 4 times and hence the emails are not all identical. Its hard to say which is the main influence of her talks but it sounds like the weakening of the Magnetosphere via a magnetic weakening of the poles will allow the outer stratosphere to not screen out as much solar radiation as it usually does.
Though
this information may not be welcome I felt it a duty to pass it on and
do a bit of research. Mother has indicated severe weather patterns as we
move into 2020 and 2022. I have quite a few renunciant friends who
reside in Amritapuri and are loath to be identified for fear of
misconstruing Mothers compassionate words.
However I have managed to get a rough picture of what she has said via the www.amritapuri.org website and their emails.
I
have been told Mother brought up this subject 4 times and hence the
emails are not all identical. Its hard to say which is the main
influence of her talks but it sounds like the weakening of the
Magnetosphere via a magnetic weakening of the poles will allow the outer
stratosphere to not screen out as much solar radiation as it usually
does.
The emails are without alteration except to delete the names of
those who have very kindly emailed me their conclusions as to what was
said .
Here at Ashram on New Year’s Eve.
Amma talked and specifically mentioned solar flare, skin cancer in 2020 and 2022. See if you can find her talk online.
I have more info about what was not translated from Malayalam. Basically western cities will over heat and starve as crops scorched and no communication and transportation infrastructure that is not internet and cell phone based.
India will be so hot many westerners will leave ashram.
Chicago ashram is looking Nicer already.
Jan ( name has been changed )
T
Hi ,
I wrote to our brahmachari friend at Amritapuri as well as the friends who told us about Amma’s satsang on December 15th when she apparently spoke about 2020 (storms and political incidents) that may be too late to avert. I haven’t heard back from either.
As we watch the weather reports even now from India, it’s not difficult to see that we are experiencing extreme weather incidents such as flooding, tornadoes, etc.
Our friends said that Amma had talked about the disturbance to the earth due to drilling as well. I’m not remembering the particulars of those implications.
I appreciate (and share) your concern about the many ways that information takes on a life of its own as it filters through translators, listeners and word of mouth. It’s the reason I don’t want to comment before hearing more information.
I visited the YSS ashram in Ranchi this past week. The atmosphere was saturated with peace despite the New Years celebrations taking place outside the gate. Everything was cared for meticulously, as you’d expect. We felt Master’s presence everywhere ~ the Dyana Mandir (meditation hall), the small temple where Master received the vision of coming to America, his small bedroom. All were lovely.
Blessings to you and Karen in the new year.
Sarah
Cc:
Got things confirmed.
World will get hotter. Therefore more disasters like Chennai flooding.
Ozone
layer has rusted out. So the sun’s rays will be directly hitting the
earth which will increase cases of skin cancer.Communication will be
affected. Amma didn’t say if because of increased global temperature.The
earth’s gravitational force will be affected. Amma did not mention the
cause.
Amma said even shell fish would be dying. Maybe Amma is implying that shell fish are hardy.
—–was not the airport or beach. But tried to nail what she said down as best I could, but even still there is a lot of room for error in translation and from hearing it second hand. I do not know that she specifically said “solar flare.” One of my sources said that Amma said that the sun (not the earth) would lose a protective layer (or something like this) that protects us from harmful rays.
But it is hard to get too accurate about this because Amma is just spontaneously talking and Shubamrita is spontaneously translating and the listener only remembers part of the discourse and I get confused because different people are telling me different versions of the same thing.
Here is a summation of what I have been able to gather from somewhat credible sources:
Solar actively melts satellites, disrupts communication and transportation. Floods and droughts. The Earth will get warmer. Ozone layer affected (destroyed? disrupted? depleted?) Skin cancer will become much more prevalent.
There was also something about the earths magnetic field shifting but I don’t know if this came from Amma or my source.
In the light of her prediction however, it interesting to note that aluminum shade covers have been installed on just about all the open roofs at the ashram. And they are sill building up the ashram like crazy. Perhaps this place will become a kind of haven when the **** hits the fan.
That’s all I have. I will let you know if I get any more info.
Gyan—
Amma talked about it again last night during her New Years Eve talk. She said that during the years 2020-2022 the, “earths thermostat will be broken.” and the ozone layer will not protect us any more. When it rains it will rain to the point of flooding, when there is drought, it will go on for a long time. She said “satellites will melt.” Without saying so directly, she made it sound like it was too late to do anything about it, but that we should remain alert and aware, and that we need to have a “leap in consciousness.” She said to imagine that we are holding the earth in our arms like we would a sick baby and pray for it. This is fourth time she has talked about this publicly now.
Well, if you go to www.amritapuri.org and
look up Amma’s New Year’s messge, that pretty much sums things up. She
has specifically pinpointed 2020 OR 2022. Why those two years I don’t
know. But a bramacharini did tell me that Amma said that
communications could be cut off sooner than 2020, and also air travel,
due to satellites being disabled because of heat. It’s not being a
worry wart; it’s not looking good, so we are advised to pray. She has
also mentioned possibility of more wars, food wars, areas of the earth
that will become unbearably hot (she doesn’t say which places). Also
increase in diseases and cancer; air difficult to breathe; these are
bits and pieces that I’ve heard over the years. Not a good time to have
children, obviously.
It’s good that you’re concerned; let’s keep praying!
Sorry to send you these gloomy New Year’s predictions, but I know you are interested.
The below section is taken from Mother’s New Year Talk…the http://www.amritapuri.org/50825/16-newyear.aum
Natural
disasters like the floods in Chennai warn us about how alert we need to
be when it comes to protecting Nature’s harmony. Today we are seriously
worried about global warming and its effects. If global temperatures
continue to increase, the result will be disastrous. The planet earth
may continue to exist, but not a single member of the human race will
survive. In December, the leaders of 195 countries signed an agreement
at the United Nations Climate Change Conference [COP 21] in Paris. Let
us hope and pray that their efforts to solve global climate change are
successful and that their decisions come to fruition.
If
things continue to deteriorates they are, then by 2020 or 2022, the
earth’s temperature will be soaring. We all know about the depletion of
the ozone layer in the stratosphere and the ozone hole.
This
year, let us put in more effort to plant trees and to do organic
farming. It would be great if each household were to make their own
compost. Even those who live in flats can collect the food waste in a
separate container and make compost from it. They can also grow
vegetables and trees in either buckets or plastic drums or pots.
Carpooling should be encouraged more. The numbers of vehicles on the road have increased, leading to more atmospheric pollution. If there are five people working in the same office, or in the same area, they can use one car instead of five. People can split the cost of the fuel. Thus, carpooling will help us to reduce our diesel expenses and reduce atmospheric pollution as well. It will also reduce the time it takes to reach our destination, as the number of vehicles on the road will decrease. Moreover, with the money saved, many poor people can be helped.
Here are some relevant articles reported via the media and scientific community …
Frighteningly Enormous Solar Flare Update: White House Prepares For Coronal Mass Ejection, Potential Catastrophic Space Weather EventsRead more at http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/29/frighteningly-enormous-solar-flare-upd#7Jdz7S5KEyA0x5hx.99
Earth’s weakening ‘magnetic shield’ could see life WIPED OUT as skin cancer levels soar
1 in 8 Chance of Catastrophic Solar Megastorm by 2020
https://www.facebook.com/Solar-Storm-Awareness-631845683614272/?ref=hl
FromNasa Science News
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/06may_carringtonflare/
A Super Solar Flare
The deadly threat of a solar superstorm
NASA says, “To prepare for a once in a lifetime solar storm!”.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/doomsday-preppers/videos/every-detail/
more info by typing in solar storm awareness into facebook
you can find much more info at https://www.facebook.com/Solar-Storm-Awareness-631845683614272/?ref=hl
Please. I do not think I am
being negative! If someone thinks a big storm is coming and tries to warn his friends, he is not being negative; he is being serviceful and practical. I see black clouds on the horizon but at the same time do not let it remove my joy or well being. If I have learnt one thing from the Master’s it is that grace, protection and hard work create great blessings even amidst the crash of outer turmoil.
Part III
Personally for many, now may be think about the time to store and grow extra food, maybe plant a few hardy fruit trees. And keep some cash out of the bank, study up on Mothers precepts, befriend like-minded devotees, and of course, cling to God and Guru even more tightly. Doing a few things like getting some long-term food storage and cash or silver coins and gold , hidden is simply insurance. Many wise persons would think it foolish to be without insurance. Such tests can only make us stronger if we cling to Mothers principles.
SOLAR STORM AWARENESS.
Wow, I hadn’t heard any of this yet, but I’m not surprised by any of it either. Hopefully, Amma will give more details in time.
I’ve
done a little bit of research on solar storms myself. My understanding
is that, aside from the possibility of danger due to a weakening
magnetic field surrounding the Earth, it is also possible for the
magnetic field to be temporarily overwhelmed by very strong coronal mass
ejection from the sun, which could temporarily cause the magnetic field
to snap like an overstretched rubber band. Such an event would allow
extremely intense solar radiation to shower the earth throughout the
peak of the solar storm, but then the Earth’s magnetic field would
rebound as soon as the solar storm was no longer strong enough to
overpower it. That alone could lead to a much higher incidence of skin
cancer and other radiation related illnesses, and could wreak havoc on
virtually anything electrical/electronic, as the charged particles from
the solar storm would be able to permeate and overrun any electrical
circuitry that was in the “on” mode. This is why they turn off
satellites when coronal mass ejections are detected heading our way,
btw, and why a major part of Canada was without electricity for a day or
two several years ago (a strong solar storm infiltrated the atmosphere
and blew out electrical transformers, even though the Earth’s
electromagnetic field did not “snap”). There have been some big solar
storms that heavily penetrated our atmosphere in past years, but the
biggest one we know about occurred before electricity was so widely used
(in the 1800s). We’d all be in for a much tougher ride, if such a storm
occurred in the modern world! Maybe Amma this suggesting that we should
be ready for such a storm to hit around 2020-2022(?)
I
had a dream recently that the air was very hot, and there were fires
everywhere, and it was difficult for everyone to breathe. I remember
wondering in the dream if this is how we all were going to die.
Like
Amma said last summer, we seem to be rushing towards a very difficult
future, as if we were eager to embrace it. There is so much societal
momentum in the wrong direction…we have to turn to our spirituality,
spiritual practices, and prayer, to have any hope of reversing the tide,
don’t you think?
And
by the way, I don’t think you’re being negative. I think you’re just
not inclined to stick your head in the sand like an ostrich, as you see
all the signs appearing around you. Let’s talk more about it sometime…
Namah Sivaya
So your referred email got me thinking.
some things didnt make sense but the reference to
The earth’s gravitational force will be affected. very much did.
have
a look at this brilliant video and it kind of explains why the weather
can heat up and solar activity can penetrate the atmosphere
while damaging the Ozone layer. Its not that there is a Carrington event
its because the magnetosphere no longer protects us like it used to.
Earth’s weakening ‘magnetic shield’ could see life WIPED OUT as skin cancer levels soar
Magnetic Field Weakening Ten Times Faster than Thought
Your Brahmacharini friend wrote.
Got things confirmed.
World will get hotter. Therefore more disasters like Chennai flooding.
Ozone layer has rusted out. So the sun’s rays will be directly hitting the earth which will increase cases of skin cancer.Communication will be affected. Amma didn’t say if because of increased global temperature.The earth’s gravitational force will be affected. Amma did not mention the cause.
Amma said even shell fish would be dying. Maybe Amma is implying that shell fish are hardy.
Sorry
if these emails sound a bit morose i just love to find out what Mother
really means and am convinced there is the science on line to interpret
it correctly. I have gone through several scenarios and by deduction
feel it is this one that is the most logical.
From a text message from another Amma Devotee which repeated a conversation i had with a temporary resident at the ashram who tried to get a copy of the transcripts of Mothers talk also…..No info
Just a friend said that Amma said all these things in Malayalam and didn’t allow them to be translated and didnt allow them to be put into the transcripts of her speeches…
That Amritapuri will be so hot all the westerners will leave, that there will be famine and most of the water sources will be dried up.
Rebekah N. says:
Yes. All is fluid depending upon the people waking up and going back to basic God given principles of morality and being DEDICATED to prayer, meditation and holiness – MORAL HOLINESS. Yet at some point the “end of this age” will need to happen. When? All is fluid. Only God knows. Every one should thank their lucky stars these end time events have not yet happened. 2/3 of population to be gone. This was suppose to happen in 1980’s. Reagan and our prayers changed it. Many many devotees were preparing. Monastics too. We narrowly avoided catastrophe. The timeline pushed further down the line. What is important for physical protection other than the above mentioned is to PREPARE for the worst and hope for the best.
RE: WWIII (From a U.S. Retired Army Officer)
Okay, I just got off the phone with a retired Brigadier General who goes to the Pentagon on a regular basis, as requested, to give his insight. I’ve seen his hoto when XXX stopped by his house XXX XXX XXX. He asked: “Do you really want to know? They will be watching you for me sharing information”. I told him “Brother they already are and they can enjoy the show” lol. He then told me “What the hell do you think the government has been preparing you for”?
“This war is coming here. China is on the way and positioning themselves. What do you need face mask for? Bombs, dust, etc. If the gov’t came out and said we are about to go to war on our soil people would panic run to stores and be complete chaos. BUT… if we have you prepare for a virus and stock up on food and mask and first aid, then your ready when it happens. We are bringing all the troops home for a fight. They aren’t dying of sickness. They need a reason to come back without alerting the public.”
I’ve known him for a long time. He has always told me things way before I ever seen them on the news… Just in case stock up on bottled water (5 gal ) and canned food.
More of MASTER’S PREDICTIONS FOR THE WORLD DURING THE 1948 SAMADHI
Below are notes I took while listening to a long time devotee in Southern California. He was one of a handful of devotees who in the late 1950’s was given a tour of the Hollywood Temple, lunch and a Satsanga by Meera Mata. This senior nun began the Satsanga on the subject of world predictions made by Master during his Great Samadhi of 1948. To the best of his memory this is what the Senior nun shared with them that day.
Meera Mata as told to her by Master:
The reasons for the coming times are because Man has forgotten the Biblical Truth, “We are our brothers keepers.” There will be a pole shift. There will be a series of natural disasters that will be very deleterious on the US economy. Our economy will fail. There will be a worldwide depression more severe than the other depression of the 30’s. It will make the last depression look like a Sunday picnic. The banks will fail. There will be acute economic distress.
THEN
WWIII will break out and be very destructive.
America will fare better than any other country due to it’s good karma of helping other nations such as rebuilding European Countries after WWII, etc BUT we have karmic debt to pay for the way we treated the Native Americans and the Blacks people.
There will be inner city social unrest and a revolution.
The war and depression will be so acute that all will be affected.
You will have to band in groups to survive.
Japan will be gone from the earth because of the way it invaded and treated China in the past.
India will wade ankle deep in blood.
WWIII will end because of 2 factors. 1. God would implant the seed so strategic error in the mind of the anti-christ. 2. The US would be able to accumulate sufficient funds to complete and field a strategic weapon that will be successful in stopping the war.
1,000 years of relative peace will be ushered in after WWIII
Additional Notes from Senior Monastic’s Over the Years
“TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN, MUCH IS EXPECTED”
Brother _Achalananda______ (summer of ’08): This is the time that Master warned us about.
A relative of a senior monastic shared with devotees the following information (Fall of ’08): Ma’s niece ____________ (her relative) told her that the new administration in Washington would slash the military. When that happens we (America) will be attacked. We will be successful in repelling the first wave (attack) but will be unsuccessful in repelling the second wave (missiles?). The inhabitants of the cities will be taken off guard. It will be unexpected. It will be such a surprise that they will run into the streets in a panic with only a tooth brush in their hand (no other belongings).
Mukti Mata: “We have been summoned to keep the balance. There are very difficult times coming. Do not throw away anything. We won’t be able to get it one day.”
Mukti Ma: When a devotee asked Sister why some devotees are told about “preparing for the difficult times ahead” and others are not she answered, “For the sake of a few many will be sacrificed”.
“To a few of us much will be entrusted.
It is our job to help take care of the others.”
Ma: “There are dior adversities coming. Others may experience – panic and depression. We will experience – direction, vision, faith, hope.”
“We need to grow food. Put time into growing supplemental food. It takes time, intention, determination.”
“Man has to go back to the land. If you think this is not so, you are mistaken.”
Master told Brother ????____: There would be a pole shift. (Ma told Br. Turiyananda this.)
Sister Shanti : Master said there would be a comet that would come so close to the earth that it would seem it would hit but it will not. However, the debris attached to the tail will hit some places on the earth. The gases that follow the comet in the tail are poisonous and when mixed with our atmosphere will be deadly. If and when you see a comet coming do the following: run in doors, tape up all cracks and holes in your doors and windows. Cover your windows. DO NOT GO OUTSIDE. DO NOT LOOK OUTSIDE. Do not answer the door no matter what. Lie on wool blankets, have water and rest. You will remain this way for three days and nights.
The day of the Comet will begin by being unusually cold and the sky will have an unusual color to it.
She also added, “you will know when the comet is coming close as the winters are bitter cold – unusually so – and cold temperatures are found to be in locations where it does not usually get cold.
Br._Anandamoy______: 9/11 was one of the warnings given to mankind that they must change or suffer. Store wool blankets, foodstuff, water, as there will come a time after the “events” are over when there will be no food. It will take a while to grow the food so have stored food.
Br._Anandamoy_______: When one devotee who is preparing for these dire events told Brother that they were growing their own food he asked, “What are you doing to grow food indoors? (Inferring that at some time in the future you may not be able to grow food out of doors for a while).”
Br. Achalananda (Summer of 2010): Stay away from the Cities. There is going to be violence.
Br. Achalananda (Fall of 2011): If the WW III does not begin by 2015 then we will probably not have to fight one.
From the archives of Dr. Lewis I just read the following:
There will be a holocaust much greater and much worse than the last one in World War II. There will be a great catastrophe. He was very upset when he said this. He said it was going to be awful just awful. There will be a great depression much worse than the one of 1929. That we, MUST PREPARE for ourselves and so that we can help others. We must come together in small groups to survive. To live off of the land.
How To Avoid The Mass Karma of International Epidemics Fires Floods Hurricanes Wars Accidents…..
The mass karma of this earth is teaching us some very humbling lessons isn’t it and it has nothing to do with carbon emissions. We are all linked together and bound by common fate and by our own thoughts, feelings, words, and actions. We totally affect our own lives and this helps us bind or liberate the world at large. When materiality predominates in men’s consciousness an emission of subtle negative rays with accumulative power disturbs the balance in nature. This is when these epidemics, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes and all of these disasters happen. God is not responsible for them. Men’s thoughts must be controlled before nature can be controlled. If you haven’t accepted and understood the inescapability of karmic retribution you have not even jumped the first hurdle in your spiritual development.
Millions of people on this earth keep inviting disaster to themselves by the power of their own thoughts and feelings while unconsciously bringing upon themselves all kinds of unpleasant incidents or events and ignorantly blame some imaginary external factor such as fate or destiny.
Do you know what the difference is between mass karma and fate? Fate is when you are not making any spiritual effort and therefore you are totally manipulated by mass karma. Not only you do have your own karma, you have the city karma in which you live and the state in which you live, the country in which you live, the planet, the solar system, and the galaxy. There are at least another fifty of the various types of karma which affect our lives. All people are subject to mass karma as well as individual karma.
All people are subject to mass karma as well as individual karma. Any earthquakes, floods, fires, storms, wars or natural cataclysms are the result of mass karma that may affect many whose individual karma may not warrant it except that they were in that environment and you cannot avoid mass karma unless you make a deep spiritual effort.
How do you avoid mass karma? You must disconnect yourself from what other people are doing, that’s
all. The great masters say that seclusion is the price of greatness because you begin to remove yourself from the mass karma which can explode at any time, or anywhere.
To the spiritually uniformed low information person this is how mass karma works. Evil actions are stored in the ether as hidden vibratory bombs as powerful negative vibrations to explode in the form of natural and national calamities. International epidemics, Hurricane Katrina these were no accident or act of God; the earthquakes in Pakistan and China were no accidents brought on by themselves.
If you live in California you can be certain that you will be affected by an earthquake or fire small or large depending on the cycle and other factors. Do you want to be stuck in the middle of a large earthquake, or some other type of natural disaster? Of course you don’t, so now you must make the effort to avoid being caught up in one. Until people correct their own behavior and thoughts, wars and natural catastrophes will continue. These events are brought not by fateful divine actions or simply by geological faults, but by widespread material selfishness. The masters tell us we have two thousand more years of wars ahead of us.
As far as individual karma works everything in the universe is integrated with magnetic laws which work with mathematical exactitude as long as you are in ego consciousness. Anything can happen to you at any time. Anything you cognize outwardly leaves its vibration within yourself. People get raped, beaten up, robbed, or whatever calamity arrives into their lives because they have drawn themselves there from their own thoughts. This mostly is from the violence people watch on TV, movies and computers.
Here is how you can protect yourself from future accidents. Just one word of God may save your life. When you get into your car say these words, “my Lord I have not forgotten you.” This could save you from a fatal accident waiting to happen to you. From the teachings of PY.
Dear Smile Billionaires of Encinitas Temple, Bro. Balananda
Thinking of all the challenges everyone is facing during this Coronavirus pandemic, I find myself reflecting on Guruji’s unique response to the trials and problems devotees would bring before him.
Whenever the monks or nuns came to Master, with any kind of problem (either physical, mental emotional, financial–it didn’t matter), he would always tell them one of two things–either “Sit down and meditate” or “Just love God more.” That’s it–just those two remedies. Remember when Daya Mata came to him with a host of financial problems, creditors to be seen, bills to be paid, food to be bought, and so on. And Guruji’s reaction was simply: “Just sit down and meditate.” And then Ma’s mental response to Guruji: “How can he say that? Meditation is for the morning and evenings. Now it’s time to keep this growing ashram running and to keep the creditors away from our door.” But being the obedient disciple she was, she would invariably sit down at Guruji’s feet and meditate. And Ma related to us that every time she came out of one of those meditations, all of her problems would just melt away–they would seem so insignificant.
And how about Guruji’s other remedy: to just love God more. Daya Ma, who had many major physical problems in the early days, would come to Master and tell him all about the physical suffering she was going through. And instead of sympathizing with her, saying: “That’s all right my child, you go on a retreat or you take the afternoon off,” he would only say: “Just love God more.” “Just love God more.” And she learned to do just that–loving him from moment to moment, even in the midst of all her pain, duties and responsibilities. And then what happened? All her physical problems just disappeared.
So what is Master saying? That it all boils down to law and love. We can solve all of our problems with either meditation or practicing the Presence–just sitting down and meditating or just loving God more. When we do either of these, we invariably find that our even mindedness, which we lost, comes back. So, what caused us to lose our even mindedness in the first place? Not meditating enough or not practicing the Presence of God enough.
And it doesn’t get much simpler than that, does it? When we meditate, when we practice the Presence, we are in tune with God: everything is just fine; and when we don’t meditate or practice the Presence enough, we are in tune with Maya: everything is everything but fine. Everything is a nest of troubles, as Master puts it.
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